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Dialogues For The World will exist to stimulate and catalyze fundamental changes in today's human society, in our brain and in our consciousness.

Centers created by Dialogues For The World will allow genuinely concerned individuals to gather and engage in open conversations or dialogues, verbal or nonverbal, with others, with themselves, with nature. People will explore freely the entire question of ‘who are we?' - without the pressure of knowledge. At the same time, some residents will pursue serious research, investigation, discourse, and summaries of relevant neurobiological data worldwide that support or reject the insightful states resulting from these open conversations or dialogues.

QUOTES FROM KRISHNAMURTI

"A dialogue is very important. It is a form of communication in which question and answer continues till a question is left without an answer. Thus the question is suspended between two persons involved in this answer and question. It is like a bud which untouched blossoms... If the question is left totally untouched by thought, it then has its own answer because the questioner and answerer, as persons, have disappeared. This is a form of dialogue in which investigation reaches a certain point of intensity and depth, which then has a quality which thought can never reach. It is not a dialectical investigation of opinions, ideas, but rather exploration by two or many serious, good brains.This place must be of great beauty with trees, birds and quietness, for beauty is truth and truth is goodness and love. The external beauty, external tranquility, silence, may affect the inner tranquility, but the environment must in no way influence the inner beauty. Beauty can only be when the self is not; the environment, which must have great wonder, must in no way be an absorbing factor, like a toy is with a child. Here, there are no toys but inner depth, substance and integrity that is not put together by thought... " (K.1984).

The following is an extract from a group discussion on studying what Krisnamurti has pointed to.:

Krishnamurti: If I went there to study what K is saying, I would want to investigate it, question it, doubt it, not just read something and go away.  I would be reading not just to memorize, I would be reading to learn; to see what he is saying and my reactions to it, whether it corresponds or contradicts, whether he is right or I am right, so there is a constant communication and interchange between what I am reading and what I am feeling.  I would want to establish a relationship between what I am reading, seeing, hearing and myself with my reactions, conditioning, and so on; a dialogue with him and me.  Such a dialogue must inevitably bring about a fundamental change.

It is essential sometimes to go to retreat, to stop everything that you have been doing, to stop your beliefs and experiences completely, and look at them anew, not keep on repeating like machines whether you believe or do not believe. You would then let in fresh air into your minds.
J. Krishnamurti

"K: In its own independence. And I would like to add to that, it is that quality of love and compassion which has intelligence. It’s that; that completes it. Now, I’ll explain what I mean by that:

I said the religious brain has no shelter. You know what that means - no shelter. It doesn’t take refuge behind any excuse, behind any judgement.. it has no shelter in itself. I wonder if you understand what I’m talking about: We have shelters in our brain, which is some kind of illusion, some kind of excuse, or some belief behind which we lurk, hide - it may be vanity, may be hurt, it may be some kind of conclusion, and so on. But the religious brain has completely no shelter, which is an extraordinary thing if you all go into it. Right?

Now, second it is not scattered. That doesn’t need explaining very much because most of our brains are scattered all over the place - either sentiment, sentimentality, romanticism, or some kind of emotional outburst. You follow? It is not ever scattered.

And it is unshackled. You know the word ‘shackled’ means to be attached to something. Please, this is serious; this is not something you agree or disagree. Look at it. It is not shackled to anything, to any attachment, to any personal experience, to one’s own beliefs - you know all that. It is completely unshackled.

And also it doesn’t function on schedule, on rules... it is austere. You understand, the word there - "schedule"? It means, "I’ll fast to be... to have experience." "I’ll give up the world". That’s all a form of schedule, you understand a regime - which means also a brain that is austere.

Now the word ‘austere’ comes from Greek, which means ‘a dry mouth’, you understand? Austerity in Greek, the origin of, etymological meaning of, that word ‘austere’ comes from the Greek, which means ‘having a dry mouth’. ‘From that - ashes, hard, rough... You understand what I’m saying? Right Sir? And a sense of harshness. So it is not scheduled at all. I wonder if I capture all--- doesn’t matter, I’ll leave this.

And also, of course, it is essentially non-comparative. That is, it doesn’t compare - I’m better than this... It has no sense of comparison. It doesn’t get better or more, you understand, which is all comparative, comparing oneself with what should be and so on, right? Of course, that’s obvious, rituals, dogmas, faith and all that business is completely out of it.

And also a sense of total freedom: The word ‘freedom’ also, the origin of that word, has the meaning of love, right, compassion; and where there is love, compassion, there is real

intelligence. This is a religious mind, as I consider it. You may say that’s nonsense. You’re quite right; so discuss it.

This is entirely different from any idea of religion. There is no following; there is no authority; there is...a sense of total integrity...."

[ Extracted from transcripts of a tap of a small group discussion with J. Krishnamurti held at Rajghat Fort, Varanasi, November 29th 1984]

A statement dictated by Krishnamurti to a Trustee of the Foundation, at Vasanta Vihar on 26-27 January 1984.

a Vision stated by J. Krishnamurti about Retreats:

It must last a thousand years, unpolluted, like a river that has the capacity to cleanse itself, which means no authority whatsoever for the inhabitants. And the teachings in themselves have the authority of the Truth.

It is a place for the flowering of goodness; a communication and cooperation not based on work, ideal or personal authority; but cooperation implies not round some subject or principle, belief and so on. As one comes to the place, each one is his work - working in the garden or doing something - may discover something as he is working, and he communicates and has a dialogue with the other inhabitants - to be questioned, doubted and to see the weight of the truth of his discovery. So there is a constant communication and not a solitary achievement, or understanding. It is the responsibility of each one to bring this about. Each one of us, if he discovers something basic, new - it is not personal but it is for all the people who are there.

It is not a community. The very word ‘community’ or ‘commune’ is an aggressive or separate movement from the whole of humanity. But it does not mean that the whole humanity comes into this place. It is essentially a religious centre according to what K has said about religion. It is a place where one is not only physically active, sustained and continuous; [there is also] a movement of learning and so each one becomes the teacher and the disciple. It is not a place for one’s own illumination or one’s own goal of fulfilment, artistically, religiously, or in any way, but rather [for] sustaining each other and nourishing each other in flowering in goodness.

There must be absolute freedom from orthodox or traditional movements; but rather there must be total freedom, absolute freedom from all sense of nationalities, racial prejudices, religious beliefs and faiths. If one is not capable of doing this with honesty and integrity, he had better keep away from this place. Essentially one has the insight to see that knowledge is the enemy of man. This is not a place for romanticists, sentimentalists, or for emotion. This requires a good brain, which does not mean intellectual but rather a brain that is objective, fundamentally honest to itself and has integrity in word and deed.

A dialogue is very important. It is a from of communication in which question and answer continues till a question is left without an answer. Thus the question is suspended between two persons involved in this answer and question. It is like a bud which untouched blossoms... If the question is left totally untouched by thought, it then has its own answer because the questioner and answerer, as persons, have disappeared. This is a form of dialogue in which investigation reaches a certain point of intensity and depth, which then has a quality which thought can never reach. It is not a dialectical investigation of opinions, ideas, but rather exploration by two or many serious, good brains.

This place must be of great beauty with trees, birds and quietness, for beauty is truth and truth is goodness and love. The external beauty, external tranquility, silence, may affect the inner tranquility, but the environment must in no way influence the inner beauty.

Beauty can only be when the self is not; the environment, which must have great wonder, must in no way be an absorbing factor, like a toy is with a child. Here, there are no toys but inner depth, substance and integrity that is not put together by thought...

The first stone we lay should be religious.

[Vasanta Vihar Newsletter, 2, Krishnamurti Foundation India, November 1995]

 

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VISION

The Vision and the Purpose of  ‘DIALOGUES FOR THE WORLD’ IS TO CREATE RESPONSIVE, SECURE, INCLUSIVE, VITAL, AND WISE, WORLDWIDE SOCIETIES AND COMMUNITIES, EMERGING FROM THE CULTIVATION OF THE WHOLE HUMAN BEING, FROM THE UNFOLDING OF GOODNESS AND INTELLIGENCE, IN ALL RELATIONSHIPS, FROM THE FLOWERING OF WISDOM, FROM A HEALTHY BRAIN AND BODY, FROM A NEW SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND FROM SCIENTIFIC AND SPIRITUAL MATURITY.

 

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MISSION

The Mission of ‘DIALOGUES FOR THE WORLD’ IS TO FACILITATE, CONVOKE, CREATE, CONDUCE, COMPOSE, AND COORDINATE, MEDITATIONAL AND CREATIVE DIALOGUES WORLDWIDE, AMONG COMMUNITIES, ORGANIZATIONS, AND PEOPLE. FURTHER, TO PROVIDE, PREPARE, PUT TOGETHER, UNFOLD, AND SHARE ECOLOGICALLY BEAUTIFUL SETTINGS AND FACILITIES, SUCH AS EDUCATIONAL RETREAT CENTERS, WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN FREELY ENGAGE AND PARTICIPATE IN SMALL GROUPS, AND THROUGH MEDITATIONAL DIALOGUES AND ENCOUNTERS, EXPLORE PERENNIAL QUESTIONS OF LIFE, LEARN ABOUT THEMSELVES AND OTHERS, BE OPEN TO INSIGHT, SILENCE, AND DAILY ACTIVITIES, AND WHEN NECESSARY, CONSIDERING, MIND/BRAIN INQUIRIES AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, AS WELL AS WHAT JIDDU KRISHNAMURTI AND OTHERS HAVE POINTED TO, AND IN THE PROCESS, REGENERATE AND CHANGE HUMAN SOCIETY.


 

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